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Chshunstovsky
from a document from Paul Thorner
Chshunstovsky *** חשאןסטאווסקי *** OR ***חשאן סטאווסקי

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February 26, 2013: Texas: Richard & Rick Thorner

In about 2002, my first cousin Richard Thorner, Mel's son, arrived at the Bellagio Hotel in Las Vegas.  He was travelling with his wife, Ann, and his brother and sister-in-law, Stephen and Susan Woodcock.  After checking in, Richard's brother telephoned his room, and the hotel operator asked "Which Richard Thorner do you want, the one from Texas or the one from New Hampshire?" This was the first indication of a second Richard Thorner. Later in the day, Richard received a voicemail message stating "Hi, this is Richard Thorner from Texas.  I am wondering if we are related.  Please call me."  After exchanging a couple of more voicemails, Richard (from NH) was finally able to speak in-person with the other.  "The only Richard Thorner I am aware of from Texas is a doctor who went to Dartmouth."  "I'm the guy," responded the other.  The two arranged to meet later that evening.  Dr. Thorner and his wife arrived (after playing poker), and Richard asked him about his family.  Both families had come through New York and were Jewish.  Dr. Thorner's grandfather was Theodore, and he had an aunt, Ruth.  Richard had a great-uncle, Theodore, who had a daughter, Ruth, but they were not the same.  Finally, Richard asked Dr. Thorner whether or not his family had changed his name.  Dr. Thorner responded in the affirmative and that name was Chshunstovsky, the same family name as Richard.  Further research was needed.

Another coincidence is that both Richards graduated Dartmouth College, Dr. Thorner in '68 and Richard in '86 (note the numeric similarity).
Richard, knowing I was interested in family history, put me in touch with Richard's father Paul.
In 2002, Paul and his wife Edith came to California to visit their daughter Nancy and invited me to come over to talk and compare notes.

Good News!
In the spring of 2013 Richard Thorner and Rick Thorner each took the Y-DNA test and learned that they had zero degrees of separation! This suggests that they have a common ancestor just beyond our information horizon. May 22, 2020: The results of Paul's autosomal DNA test arrived and we are related in the range of 1st cousin twice removed to 2nd cousin twice removed!

Here's why and how I think we're related

New! The Two Lous

Paul Thorner's Family Documents

Paul Thorner Family Tree
updated 4/14/2013

Abraham Chshunstofsky Thorner (1863-1937)  and Simma/Simle/Celia (1866-1943)
updated 3/22/2013

Louis Thorner (c. 1887-)

updated 2/12/2013

Ruth (Rifka) Thorner Rothberg (c. 1887-)

updated 2/18/2013

Max Davis Thorner (1888-1978)
updated 6/10/2020

Henry Thorner (c. 1892-)
updated 3/21/2013

Theodore (Towia) Thorner (c. 1893-1962)
updated 6/6/2013

Leon (Lieb) Thorner (c. 1895 Kikol-)

updated 3/21/2013

Jacob Thorner (c. 1896-1971)
updated 2/14/2013

The Family of Paul Thorner's wife Edith Horowitz Thorner

Documents for Edith's Father, Morris Horowitz

The Gourevich/Gurewitz/Hurrovitz/Horowitz Family from Liozna, Belarus
featuring contact from the family in Russia!

Simle and Abraham Thorner in late 1917- early 1918

son of Yehudah Leib


Louis Thorner
Ruth (Rifka) Thorner
Max Davis Thorner
Henry/Hyman/Chaim Thorner
Theodore (Towia) Thorner
Leon (Leib) Thorner
Jacob "Jack" Thorner
1887, Kikol, Poland
1887, Kikol, Poland
1/29/1888, Kikol, Poland
1891, Kikol, Poland
10/14/1893 Kikol, Poland
2/15/1895, Kikol, Poland
1/12/1897, Kikol, Poland
late 1917- early 1918
late 1917- early 1918
late 1917- early 1918
late 1917- early 1918
late 1917- early 1918
late 1917- early 1918
late 1917- early 1918
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CHILDREN

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Leon Thorner
Irving Thorner
Paul Thorner
Marilyn Thorner
Sylvia Thorner
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Daniel Thorner
Edna Thorner
Herbert G. Thorner
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Theodore Thorner
Anita Sue Thorner
Helen Thorner
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Anita/Nita Fay Thorner
Louis Thorner
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Paul Thorner Family Immigration Summary


March 31, 1907
Arrival NYC from Hamburg on Graf Waldersee
Mosche Phschonstowski/Moische __honstrovski MAX THORNER


August 9, 1907
Arr. NYC from Hamburg 7/27/1907 on Pennsylvania
Leiwe Schanstowky LOUIS THORNER
Father Abram Shantowsky, Kikol; Going to join Feige? Thorner, 83 R_______  St.


August 12 1909
arr. NYC from Bremen on Prinz Friedrich Wilhelm
Riwke Thorner, milliner, born Kikol RUTH THORNER
father Abram Thorner, Kikol Lipno; going to bro Max Thorner, 23-25 Levis Ave, Brooklyn


February 2, 1910
, arr NYC from Bremen on Neckar
Towia Thomer THEODORE THORNER
relative in country of origin: father Abram Thorner, Going to join brother Max Thorner, Brooklyn. Detention record: bro. Max Thorner, 188 Sumner Avenue Brooklyn


November 12, 1910,
Arr NYC from Hamburg on Blücher
Chaim Thorner, born Kikol, hat-maker HENRY/HYMAN THORNER
father: Avrum Thorner. Dest: brother Max Thorner, Brooklyn. Height 5.4. brown hair, blue eyes. Detained Alien form: Max Thorner, 462 Ashford Street, Brooklyn.


December 27, 1911
  Arrive NYC from Rotterdam Dec 16, 1911 on Rijndam to meet Louis
Abraham Thorner
Sime Thorner
Leib Thorner LEON THORNER
Jacob Thorner JACK THORNER